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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 21, 2009 11:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

OK, but just to be sure--do you mean by "do my job decently" controlling the other folks, or do you just mean giving and taking in discussions of shows? If the former, sorry, it can't be done; if the latter, then we're already there...I NEVER condescend to anyone about a show I like that they ask about, nor do I ever (seriously--you know you have to allow for humor) talk down to anyone for not liking the early era, or liking the later eras (I simply profess my own likes and dislikes, and in fact often ask for them to explain their position as I do mine). Just check out the interaction with Diana W about 6-14-68...

So, if that's what you mean, we're good...

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Poster: skies Date: Nov 21, 2009 1:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

It's not a big deal with me what year ,show , list it was ! What really matters is how nice deadheads are together ,the topics being whatever . That always was what the Grateful Dead were about to many of us and it won't do to resume it all as a technical stuff only .If you don't even know what I am talking about ,Then you are not as smart as I thought !NA !

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 22, 2009 8:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

Alrighty then...fair enough. I would in the spirit of commenting on something you seem to have some interest in, that from a woman's perspective, those I knew in the 70s, when the crowds became larger and larger (ie, venues above 5000), didn't have the same experience in northern CA that you apparently did (which is good to hear). There were even a number that experienced criminal attacks from either a sexual or pers property perspective (Oakland shows for example). Very well could have been "nonDEAD" sorts that just showed up at shows to prey on the meek and mild (typically) DEADHEADs, but it was in part why I stopped going in 82...Perhaps the shows you mentioned were at places like the Greek Theatre, which was a smaller and generally "kinder and gentler" place...

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Poster: skies Date: Nov 22, 2009 12:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

HI , W.Tell ! I want to quite a few Oackland shows and there or anywhere else I met only grate people except once a ripp off (i told that story here once) and a couple lousy characters . Otherwise i never met anyone unkool to me and have never known of any women getting big hassles at GD shows , which is why , to me , deadheads were the light of the world , the men being the most decent bunch i ever saw (and i travelled the world !).I really see a huge difference now and it unsettles me , get me sad also because it affects the values of all good memories i always ha about deadheads . It become unkind and that is not acceptable ,let alone vulgar and hateful , i will not accept this from deadheads even if it would mean I loose them forever then !

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 22, 2009 1:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

Well, of course no one should accept hateful and the like...and I can see how that comes across at times, here and elsewhere. But good to hear you had better experiences than me, post mid 70s or so...I always chalked it up to larger crowds, and larger proportion of folks attending that really weren't the DEAD heads of the earlier days, if even real DEAD heads at all (whatever that means I suppose). Judgemental, I know, but that was how it seemed at the time. I recall a kid, just 13 or so, trying to sell my sister "drugs from the 60s! really!" at a show in the 80s...she replied: "you weren't even alive in the 60s!".

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Poster: skies Date: Nov 22, 2009 2:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

Gee W.tell , what happens to you ? missing my french accent or something , on yourforum ? been quite a while since you were nice to me ! Anyway , I'll keep in touch with archive and who knows , might even come back if it gets nice as a way o life ! Ha ha ha , i am having fun on deadvids and deadnet , but archive was my first , well encounter , as it were , was fun xhen it was nice . missing you and all that jazz , you know !

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 22, 2009 3:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

what the hay? you're from France and nice too?? and i thought you were just another bull-buster, out to kick some ass in a male dominated forum ;)

personally, I found that in other countries, respect begat respect- at least in OkinawaVietnamThailand (course I've never been to Europe)

I believe that in real life, if we were all at a show, we'd get along just fine, even the "trolls"

ahhhh...but the drama!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 22, 2009 6:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

You know old buddy, I think you are right there...maybe we'd have to put CLIFF and Smi2les on opposite sides of the room for a bit, but I really think you are right...that's what's hard to convey to folks that have felt abused--and I can at times appreciate that--since we feel like we know the "real" person behind a profane post. It's not a matter of defending them--I would be upset by some posts myself if I didn't know the poster well via off site communication or just three yrs of history with them...by the same token, it's probably why we take a while to "trust" new folks that rub an old friend the wrong way--we just don't know them well enough to judge them as friend or foe (and enough trolls upset us for us to imagine the foes are "real" rather than just stirring things up for a "good time" from their perspective).

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Poster: skies Date: Nov 23, 2009 3:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

For sure , we would have been good buddies if we had met at shows , deadheads being the only americans who were always free to speak with , convince me to go with them hundred of miles away at the drop of a hat ,hang out all nights in their parkinlots even tho i had never met them the day before ! By the way the only time i didn't like their scene was a strange day in Oakland where for once the crowd was mainly only men . The vibes were heavy , unpleasant and not being the kind of queen at ease with mostly only boys around , well , that was the only concert i left half an hour after music started when i realized 3 out of 4only were men and even GD played yukky .For me good news vibrations must include equal numbers of boys and gals to feel comfortable in the crowd .That said i am curious to kow how things goes on safety matters nowadays . Are the women cruising around in the parkinlots late at night no problems ?Methinks , in the 80's deadheads got keenly conscious of the importance to keep their scene safe for all and would not hesitate to run off the worse scumbags dangerous to all . And I am sure to this very day that is how it was during all these years i went to shows and so why i cherired deadheads so much . As for the troll bit , i don't really know the meaning of that word in relation to thi forum ad never quite understood why anyone could thing i was one !I am only a deadhead from overseas who got overjoyed discovering i could talk with deadheads on computers ! Frankly tho if thi archive forum reserved mostly to technical infos on GD , i had not known that , wanting only to goof around with what i thought were friends , . Never had as many hassles with heads as on this forum !

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Poster: _UIU_ Date: Nov 23, 2009 4:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

I was a GD fan, with a job, and while at home always with the opposite sex. I'd hitched to alot of shows away from home, but the ole lady hated to camp, so she banged the neighbor.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Dec 1, 2009 12:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

maybe a beer at the Mountain House is in order...can you assure my safety? (haha-paranoia)
Does Ron L still own it? (now there's a Jerry lookalike)It's been @6yrs since I dropped in.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 1, 2009 12:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

I know the Mt House well! Call me when you guys go there...

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Poster: rastamon Date: Dec 1, 2009 1:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

although recently car-less (my vintage 95 Neon died)
I'd go for a ride from Livermore...I'll pitch in some gas 'n grass. Must go now, gotta eat!



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Poster: jung_le_rot Date: Dec 1, 2009 1:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell missed it? Damn...Tell begs and pleads...

my last visit was last year after a funeral for a friend. Slept a few nights there, did a few Henchmen pizza runs, left a Persuasions do GD cd with a She Devil, and Drink with Uncle John every time I stop in..... Find me there or Banta, but currently I am careless, homeless, careless, otherwise an 801 Violator....so I am not really drinking at this time. Hope to run across some folks I met from Hag Records if I hook this gig with the wild horses.

Good Luck, Rasta

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